Close friends and former lovers facing each other for a candid talk about matters close to their heart and life….. That’s what happened when Serena and Common sat down for an hour-long ESPN special “The Undefeated In-Depth: Serena with Common,”

“There was a time where I didn’t feel incredibly comfortable about my body, because I felt like I was too strong,” Williams shared. “And then I had to take a second and think, who says I’m too strong? This body has enabled me to be the greatest player I can be and I’m not going to scrutinize that. This is great. I mean, this is amazing.”

“I think, if I were a man, I would’ve been in that conversation a long, long time ago. Like six, seven years ago. Eight years ago … I think being a woman is a whole new set of problems from a society that you have to deal with, as well — and being black. So it’s a lot to deal with. Especially lately, I’ve been able to really, really speak up for women’s rights, as well, because I think that gets lost in color or gets lost in cultures. We are doctors, we are lawyers, we are athletes, we are everything. We are CEOs. Women make up so much of this world.”

Watch the full episode below: