Not many in the black community lay down the truth like Dr. Umar Johnson has done over the years. Nevertheless, everyone doesn’t love everything that comes out of his mouth. Specifically, many in the feminist and LGBT community find his speech offensive and demeaning to the woman’s movement and the gay community.
Fortunately for us, video was captured during a Q&A session where a black LGBT feminist confronted Dr. Johnson over some of his rhetoric and what she called “hate” speech towards women and the LGBT community.
Her reference to hate speech was one thing for him, but when she attempted to compare the struggles of the LGBT community to the black struggle in this country and around the world, Dr. Johnson took it to the next level.
Dr. Johnson asked the woman to take the emotion out of the discussion so they can dialog, then proceeded to take her to school on the subject and the black struggle.
Dr. Johnson asked the woman to take the emotion out of the discussion so they can dialog, then proceeded to take her to school on the subject and the black struggle.
From the YouTube Posting:
Dr. Umar Johnson returned to Kansas City Missouri for the first time in over a year on February 15, 2015. The black history event was entitled, “150 years after the 13th amendment, still not free.” During the Q&A Portion, a black feminist accuses Dr. Umar Johnson of homophobia and hate speech. She then debates him on mental illness, homophobia, racism, white supremacy, and more… What is your stance on this? Is the gay rights movement similar/ equivalent to the African American struggle? Is someone born homosexual or is a product of life experiences?
I think Dr. Umar has a very valid point. LBGT is a preference and should not be grouped with a movement of people for Human Rights. As far as society is concerned there are only two genders. One Male and One Female. It is proven that throught natural intercourse between the two life is created. Some in our society are trying to recreate life throught other means but have not been able to do so without the including those two factors. Therefore anything other than this relationship is null and void. It is a preference plain and simple and cannot produce a positive result. Without the coming of the two we would not exisit.
We are being bombarded with this alternative lifestye daily on TV, movies, music and print media. At lot of money is being pushed into convincing human beings that this is the New Normal. One should ask why is this being push so aggrressively and for what reason?
I’m just Saying
Thank you.
The reasons for discrimination and oppression may differ, but both the Black community and the LGBT are fighting for human rights and freedoms. Dr. Umar may have a valid point about not grouping the two movements, however, I find it deplorable that Black people who may identify differently gender-wise and in their sexuality, have to make a choice between their sexuality and their race/culture because their community does not embrace them and accept them. That puts them in a dilemma, whether to fight for a group that rejects what they feel is a major part of who they are.
You, and many others, are confusing concepts. Gender is something everyone thinks they understand, but most people really don’t. Here, it’s broken into three categories: identity, expression, and sex. It’s less “this or that” and more “this and that.” Gender identity, gender expression, biological sex, and sexual orientation are independent of one another (i.e., they are not connected). Gender identity is all about how you, in your head, think about yourself. It’s about how you internally interpret the chemistry that composes you (e.g., hormone levels). Gender expression is all about how you demonstrate your gender through the ways you act, dress, behave, and interact–whether that is intentional or unintended. Biological sex refers to the objectively measurable organs, hormones, and chromosomes you possess. – Sexual orientation is all about who you are physically, spiritually, and emotionally attracted to.
Well put but U left out one important element… MENTAL!!! Which is what it is in a nut shell… Mental illness… Sorry not sorry.
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What wrong with your comments ? i love reading them.
Watching this video reminded me of how quickly these arguments can spiral out of control because of their emotional and cultural components. Emotional and cultural arguments cannot be made into logical ones. Both sides appear to be emotional in this argument one side wanting to be understood and the other proclaiming the so-called righteousness of their stance. Having said all that; here is my point of view. Dr. Umar makes circular arguments that do nothing more than exhibit his cynicism about LGBT folks in broad generalities. He correlates historical markers in the LGBT movement that would seem to conspire to quash the gains of the Civil Rights Movement. He cites examples of a few historical figures seeming indifference to the Black plight to indicate a mass conspiracy and lack congruence the African American “struggle”. The fact is that teh LGBT Movement can be separated from the Black Civil Rights Movement however they share an underlining them which is equal protection under the law. This is far from the assertion that Dr. Umar makes about the LGBT movement being about the acceptance or endorsement of sexual acts between consenting adults. This is a common tactic used by someone when trying to distort another’s point of view. A prime example of this is further illustrated by the comment left by Mr. Lee wherein he talks about procreation and two genders. As far as I know and from the arguments made by LGBT activists-no one refutes that facts. This would be the very same reason that these types of arguments have failed in the judiciary to uphold heterosexual couples rights to enter into the civil contract of marriage vs the same right for same sex couples. The young woman attempting to change Dr. Umar’s mind was a grave mistake (and others in the crowd apparently) . Her miscalculation came into play as she appeared to be making an intellectually argument but appeared to try to make this argument from an emotional place. What so many people forget is that the law cannot uphold the rights of one group over the other. Your personal morality is a different topic altogether and has absolutely nothing to do with what is or should be legal. There are no “special” rights as is the common insinuation among us that feel that the Civil Rights movement is not over. Some of us (and rightfully so) mix White Privilege into the LGBT movement. While it may be true that on its face that the LGBT Movement has many white faces; that same movement has many faces of different colors and socioeconomic demographics. There are Black faces in that movement who suffer both the occasional indignities of racism from Whites and the over present condemnation from their own Black Community. The only intersection of LGBT Rights and the term “Black” Struggle is that of equal treatment under the law. That is where the argument should begin and end.
why do i need to ask for every time i come to your NEWS page?
I’m not sure why you don’t see them. They are below the articles in Facebook and some are here where you commented.
I agree with Dr. Umar. The black struggle and the gay struggle are simply not the same. Fighting for who you want to have sex is not the same as fighting for your basic human rights in a country that doesn’t see you as human. You can be gay behind closed doors. You can’t hide the skin you’re in. Sorry. Its not the same.