I’m not sure where to start with this one. Tell black people that their Jesus is not real is a sure way to start a war! Pastor Ray Hagins use to be a “Christian” pastor for over 20 years but gave it up after he became “conscious”.
He began to teach scriptures that came out of Kemet and also began destroying religion that was taught by white supremacy.
However, in the video below, Pastor Ray Hagins states that the bible is a book of “allegories”. Many of us have been taught different things about the bible.
Some of us were taught that God wrote it, that man wrote it, and some of us were not taught anything about it. But what is definite is that the bible seems to have a choke hold on the black community. There are churches on most of the streets in the black community.
Below is the video of Pastor Ray Hagins breaking down the bible and its “allegories”.
The bible verse you are NOT supposed to know about. Galatians 4:22-24 Ray Hagins breaks down the verse in the bible that shows you that ALL people in the entire book is allegory, made up or FAKE!!!
Posted by A Higher Knowledge on Tuesday, September 15, 2015
Hagin is sprewing all this hate, becuase jesus ‘failed’ him, well really, it’s the other way around. The problem is Hagin had no divine vision and revealation from the Father Yahweh to give him faith!. Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley in modern times proved / confirmed that jesus , better yet Yahshua is real. The holy spirit in Kinely made it clear that Yahshua is no fairy-tale
What’s the proof that jesus is real. Please enlighten me sir!
We ain’t even “real.” LOL. So “jesus” is about as real as the rest of us are.
The Holy Spirit Sr. 1Corinthians 2:11-14. You will never understand something you don’t have. John 6:44 might help you understand why you don’t get the message.
To ALL of you who want to bash Mr. Hagins for striking a match in a very dark place…DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH! There is absolutely no excuse to remain ignorant (not a bad word) in the era of the internet because it is easier than ever to go back and study the history of christianity and discover exactly what the truth is for oneself. Truth is liberating and knowledge is powerful. Unfortunately, there are a lot of educated ignorant people because the schools and colleges serves an agenda that teaches its students how to be better at remaining in a state of psychological bondage. I, too, was a devout christian for 26+ years so I decided to enter college to study religion and theology, and I was devastated because I had to come face to face with the fact that what I had been taught all of my life was not true at all. I know how difficult it is to clear out 26+ years of brainwashing because I have had to control, alt, delete and change my entire software, too. There is no going back for me. We all are entitled to our own opinions, and I get that, but no intelligent person should try to argue against historical facts. These facts are extremely easy to verify. All you have to do is a little bit of research. Just a little. Look up Constantine, the Counsel of Nicea, First Counsel of Constantinople, Counsel of Trent, Counsel of Ephesus, Counsel of Chalcedon. Ignorance is bliss, but knowledge is power. Employ some critical thinking skills, and revisit Plato’s Republic (Allegory of the Cave)…If a person has spent 26+ years getting their ass beat and then the beatings suddenly stopped, that person would miss it for a while because that was essentially all they knew, but I bet you one thing….it’s a life that they would NEVER return to, and once you learn the real deal about the history of christianity, you won’t either……peace power to all.
This is the difference between those who have been touched by and encountered the living Jesus the Christ and those that rely on their own wisdom. What a pity that people still do not get it. Praise God through his Son Jesus Christ for his compassion and mercy.
Hello to you. Let me be the first to say that about 1yr ago you cudnt tell me nothing about Jesus Christ. I was SOLD OUT. The truth I found out left me crying and feeling bamboozled for all I thougbt to know and teach had been proved through historical facts that the stories and people “DID NOT EXIST. PLEASE PLEASE RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF… IT IS AN ATROCITY.what this government or elitist few have done to us as a whole. Once you let go because of your research you will feel liberated and want to help the sleeping others
I thank brother Ray Hagins for the boldness to reveal this but no matter how you say the truth those who will not heed will not heed
Many people are willingly ignorant by so many false teaching like this Hagins. Here is one verifiable proof these nay Sayers cannot disapprove. If you want proof of the bible, meaning the names, places, and events that are recorded in the bibe’s time line. You can find artifacts thru dig sites. One magazine, Biblical Archaeology Review. It has proof of not only the names in the bible, but even proof of the time line, and the correlation of the recorded event stated in the bible! You have artifacts that were dug up that give physical proof. But consider this one scripture. Me people shall perish for a lack of knowledge! They have chosen to remain willingly ignorant to the teachings of the Words of God!
f. author I cound not have said it better.
F.Arthur…..I have had similar thought about Christanity and religion in general…..I am going to research all that you have mentioned above…..can I ask you a question….what circumstances and situation led to this enlightenment?
I listen to this Man, and I Researched on what he was saying. Case in point, The Council of Chalcedon 451 AD. The Golden Stool by Edwin W. Smith.I was aware of the Council of 325 Constinope. The Church as kept me BLIND. I can see clearly now. I to was a Minister/Preacher in CHRISTIANITY. You can say want you want to about Ray Haggins. I am responsible now for what I know, not Ray Haggins.
You know nothing, one book
The statement “which things are an the allegory” is not a statement, it is a question. These are the strongest times of persecution of the word. Hold strong to your faith, pray for wisdom and knowledge. I know man of Flesh or anything of spirit are principalities erase you from your father’s hands.
F. Arthur awesome response! It’s unfortunate that people are not awaken that the Holy Spirit is inside each and every one of us and whose ever in touch within himself can handle the truth you so described and know of the higher self. They are always stirring us away from human potential, never looking inside ourselves but outside ourselves for some savior! Peace and wisdom for all through out the New Year!
I agree with pastor ray hagins. I want the truth from a man of conviction, not jews who are liars who calling theirself. Elohim chosen people.
The so-called Pastor Ray Hagin as a liar a blasphemer and in Hell shall he open up his eyes if he doesn’t repent. Black people fall for anything smdh 🙁
Prove him wrong instead of bashing him. Changing the narrative is your kind, first line of defense. He has physical, visual proof. Give me something more than what a book says written by a man. Of not mistaken, the jesus we were taught about says nothing, himself, in the bible. It’s all what someone else says that he said. Prove him wrong!!
There is no need to prove one wrong. He has done that quite efficiently himself. 1Jn 2:19 gives reference to a person such as this. God has nothing to prove to us. This is the truth. What one does by prideful arrogance is prove that He is not of Him. Without the Spirit of God you cannot hear or see Him. You are Dead! It is a very sad fact to see the ignorance of those who will not humble themselves and receive the truth… God will leave you to a reprobate mind when you will not receive Him. May you all turn from your error, God is Loving, forgiving and merciful. Turn to him while there’s still light…God bless
Are you sure Joey? god is incapable of any human emotion only you and me can love, forgive etc. god has no body
Believers will never be able to prove anything because their beliefs, or thoughts, or so called encounters, are on a personal reach and not a world, continent, country, state, county, etc., reach. I find it very interesting that believers would take the words on pages, with no historical evidence, as something to live by. Santa Claus only gives toys to the good children and nothing for the bad and yet the God of their book created all only to pick a small group and kill off others, then kill its on chosen throughout the whole book, only to have to send its so called “son” to have to be beaten and tortured just to save everyone…sure doesn’t sound like an intelligent God but religion has no need for intelligence only obedience like slave to slave master. Check
If ‘Jesus’ did not exist, then what Hagins says ‘Jesus’ said, are lies.
When it comes to Jesus and the black community Jesus should’ve been fired a long time ago.
I wonder if there are satanist out there who can stand and emphatically state, Satan is not real. How many practicing Witch or Warlocks can stand and say their rituals they are practicing they don’t believe in. We never find practicing satanist, warlocks, witches and necromancer fighting against their kind. This man says he is a pastor, pastor of what? You carry a title and yet denying the truth. I wonder if a neuro surgeon can state I don’t believe in the books or what I was taught. Man cannot save man, we are creatures that were created. Whether you acknowledge it or not. There is a Divine creator. This world did not show up by chance. Embedded in everyone of us is a innate response to worship a higher being. Following Jesus or teachings of the Bible is strictly based on Faith and Belief. If you chose not to believe leave those who want to believe alone.
My name is Andrew, a Biblical scholar. I do need more evidence for the claim of the Bible not being historical. I will say this.in the beginning I had a issue with Dr Gavin’s views. I thought he was heretic speaking blasphemy. Now I can’t stop listening to his teachings on YouTube. I still hold to the Bible as historical truth. However, I have a problem with Euro-centric interpretations placed on. I do not totally agree with the Bible being entirely allegorical. Other than Paul’s letter to the Galatians and the Nicea Council of 325. Dr.Hagins never mentioned the ante-Nicean Fathers who debated, defended the doctrine of Christology during the 2nd and 3rd centuries. Having does an excellent job exposing the pilots and sublimation control of Christianity placed on us as Black people. I have no objections to him enlightening his race. I am culturally enlightened by his knowledge. He is a deep spiritual brother. Definitely not religious. Dr Having is not biased not confined to any religious system. this is why found Hagins interesting. I love him. Keep it up brother.
Andrew Jordan
Hagins does an excellent exposing Euro-centric interpretations of Christianity and Exposing the political plots in Christianity on Black people. the tablet did not allow me to correct the grammar sorry
I don’t care what ANYONE says, the Bible is the authoritative, God-inspired (yet, written by man) truth. JESUS IS THE WAY ,TRUTH AND THE LIGHT! We are truly in the last days. Many people falling away and buying into the age old lie that Satan proposed to Eve in the garden….that we are all “GODS”, we need to get in touch with our “own higher conscious” and all the other bull crap. All you so-called “woke” people are spiritually blind and willfully ignorant and falling prey to the very “damnable heresies” that the Bible talks about that this false prophet is teaching. What a paradox, You believe more in a history book (ALSO WRITTEN BY MAN) rather than the true Living God. I’d rather believe what GOD says than be “woke” and find myself “waking” up in hell. My prayer is that all of you repent and seek/turn back to the Lord while he may still be found.
2 Peter 2:1-2 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
Amen
There are no non-biblical references to a historical Jesus by any known historian of the time during and after Jesus’ purported advent. No literate person of his (Jesus’) own time mentioned him in any known writing. The eminent Hellenistic Jewish historian and philosopher Philo (20 B.C.E.-50 C.E.), who was alive at the purported time of Jesus, makes no mention of him. Nor do any of the some 40 other historians who wrote during the first one to two centuries of the Common Era. Enough of the writings of [these] authors . . . remain to form a library.
In the entire works of the Jewish historian Josephus, which constitute many volumes, there are only two small paragraphs that supposedly refer to Jesus. Although much has been made of these “references,” they have been dismissed by all scholars and even by Christian apologists as forgeries. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof; yet, no proof of any kind for the historicity of Jesus has ever existed.
There are no talking SERPENTS,there are no angels with WINGS,there are no streets of GOLD,no heaven ,no hell,ALL MAN MADE
Science is man-made. What’s the dif?
I never believed in the Bible because I grew up as a Muslim. I am neither Muslim or Christian or any other “religion” I am “me”. It is so mind boggling how anyone could defend something that has not made any difference in your life other that to say what you have read and do not even care to do your research because you are lazy and set in your ways and just copying every word of what you were taught. Not to even mention you don’t even care to understand where we came from and your come back is always that African’s had no religion and were cast out or whatever because they did not “believe”… there is no heaven or hell. Get over it believers. Why don’t you utilize your energy in defending something that is not there to do something about what is here. Black people still trying to survive in America and yes, we are still slaves because our men can catch a bullet anytime and we still do not “get it”. Keep praying and calling on something you are too lazy to do yourself. THAT is why we are in the predicament we are in today…WE have to do it. Not something like Santa and definitely not a book that was strictly written to keep us all just where we are today. NOWHERE. Think you are not brainwashed? Then stop making excuses for why some are supposed to have and why some are not. Starving children did nothing…and they will always be until we as people on this earth do something about it. IF there is a God…your Jesus…Wow…it sickens me to think you would even believe in such mess that is going to cause any harm in anyone. God is the nature of the earth and we are part of it. Boy – they animals are smarter than you. The animals are smarter. They live of the earth and die of the earth…and they do what they need to do in order to survive. We as people can’t even do that. The brain is too discombobulated. If you were so strong in your “belief” you would not be so quick to smack the truth into the ground. Just like the religion…it’s all about the fight. Which is why it was created in the first place. Open your eyes, and get a clue.
I hope that these people are not abandoning their faith in Jesus because of certain white groups and how they have abused God’s Word to support their own hateful agenda throughout history. People do horrible things in the name of God, but don’t let that turn you away from the truth and the love that is in Christ Jesus. We are all equal in the eyes of God and salvation is for all mankind, for anyone who receives the gift from our loving God. The thought that we should be our own god is the same lie that Satan told Eve in the garden. Please, don’t fall into that darkness, God is light, walk in the light.
The serpent did not lie for you can be your own God if you too can eat the forbidden fruit.
2 Timothy 3 King James Version (KJV)
3 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their’s also was.
10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
Amen.
Amen
The Council of Chalcedon 451 AD only discusses the Deity of Christ and its various aspects and opinions.
I think that Mr. Hagans face is going to turn White when he comes face to face with Moses when Jesus comes back to this Earth in 2025 AD.
jesus never existed on earth, he came into existence by 318 roman catholic bishops by order of roman emperor constantine in the year 325 ad at the nicean councsil. this is facts not believe, this is history not fairy tales . ase
our story is carved in stone not written by men ase
There are an infinite number of WRONG answers to all math problems like 1+1 …., but there is only ONE – RIGHT answer for each problem. How long do you think it would take a school teacher to decry and shoot down all the wrong answers in the world to the problem 1+1 ??
Mr. Hagin and his followers spend an untold amount of time talking about what they consider the wrong answers, (Christianity), but I’ve never heard Mr, Hagin or his followers explain what is RIGHT.
Can one Hagin-nite tell me what the RIGHT answer is? Don’t tell me what to go read and don’t tell me about non-existent bible characters. Tell me who/what is your GOD, what is his/her/its name, and show me what is RIGHT.
You only have to do this task once because there is only ONE Truth….and you can stop wasting countless hours talking about what you consider to be the many false/wrong teachings of Christianity!
Wow, this guy is really going to have a very rude awakening one day. Also, while he is roasting in hell, his followers will be wailing and gnashing in the same pit of hell also. What a shame that he has refused to see truth for what it really is.
hi Koba, if jesus was to appear on earth as a black messiah the black worshipers may crucify him as an imposter, they believe their jesus to be white. however, the lie that god, jesus and the rest are real peole is given away by the fact that reality cannot be believed but can only be known and experienced through our five senses. that is why history books about real people are not taught to children. The truth, reality, unbelievable. knowledge is power believe is hope.
I too was confused at one point and I don’t have all the answers yet there’s still more to discover about God. The word says “by prayer and supplication make your request known to God and the peace that passeth all understanding will guard your heart’s and mind. ” I beleive in God in Jesus in the Holy Spirit. This scripture will only work if you believe. With all the knowledge where is the love. We need the love of God now more than ever because he is love. we need to have patience with each other and pray for each other to come to the knowledge of the truth. Discover God for yourselves “seek and he shall find.” For those in doubt start reaching out with all your heart and mind. Cry out to God in a way you’ve never cried out before. Know him for yourselves. Get into a quiet place and pray and seek without any books any internet any thing and you’ll. see. I’ve experienced the love of God and when I did I wanted to love others to help them even those that hurt me. Make no mistake I was angry at first evenhating them at one point but the more I held on to the anger and the bitterness the more miserable and tormented I was. I wad praying for God to show me how to let go and he did and once I let go I could love again smile again and I felt my Joy coming back. Seek him my friends you’ll find him. God bless. I’m praying
Are we really intelligent people if we follow other races religious practices even when it cant be proven that they can work for us
all are fake, lairs with one only goal in mind the perpetuation of the white race as the leading and powerful one but all that is bound to change dramatically no matter how hard they will try this is the downing of the age of aquarius and we will undo all white lies they created for millenniums reconstruct our own history and keep walking without looking back
So sad the the followers of Hagin didn’t bothered to RESEARCH him but eagerly joined his bamboozle bandwagon! He states that Christianity is white supremacist brainwashing the people. Yet he graduated with numerous degrees ending with a Ph.D from the teaching of those same white supremacist schools. Most likely accepting scholarships and student loans from those same white supremacist who fund 99.9% of those programs!
“Wisdom is the principle thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding” Proverbs 4:7
Christianity in THIS America is bamboozling Black people, but like the silver, the gold, the iron ore and the petroleum resources that whites kill themselves over after stealing from Black people, they stole our religions and claimed full ownership of them as well. We’d have to be educated about the various religions started by Black people in order to understand what happened and school ourselves, and yet wisdom is the same thing we are so adverse to. MY PEOPLE ARE DESTROYED FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. – Hosea 4:6 (And we are.) BUT … there is an answer that we refuse to see.
Any man or woman that claims to speak the truth from a racist point of view, studied in the same white supremacist schools, attaches a white supremacist degree title of (Dr.) to his or her name, wears white supremacist fabrics, drive their cars, use their phones, eat their food, use their mediums, use their written history to tell you what they also “BELIEVE” is true, and not concerned about all humanity, are people you must be very careful of.
They may also be just brainwashing you with facts and not necessarily the truth. I spent a whole night listening to him and i then went to his website to search for his alternative as he was supposedly seemingly convincing. But what did i find?….a path to what will eventually end up another religious belief. For someone that was born into religion and have practiced religion…The African Village has all the imprints of a religion in the making.
Nonetheless, he has facts that may not necessarily be the truth, so i have asked him 7 questions and still waiting for his response. In his own pattern, i will ask everyone here to think both ways. As long as the universe exist and man can look above his head, man must belief in something other than himself.
So if you are not offering science as a belief or any other belief but spirituality, the question is, spirituality in what? Where does spirituality comes from, where do those forces that some of us are a witness to come from…those gods, those oracles etc. I can start a movement tomorrow with the vast knowledge i have of things, life, man and spirituality even as one that has died and came back and i will surely have followers and we will still end up a religion or occult.
Even you can start a movement tomorrow if you have facts to convince those who do not know or can not think as much as you can and stand firmly by your beliefs (followers of beliefs are the easiest employees to get for free to pursue your agenda because man will forever continue to seek the truth till the end of time…..THINK…check every spirit before accepting any man’s spirituality….God 4 All
I have read all the comments above concerning Dr. Hagins and others. My RESPONSE to all of these notions and beliefs is based on wisdom. None of us living today has seen God, Jesus, Muhammad, or any other religious personality. There is more proof that Jesus existed, than there is that He didn’t . What has one to lose if one follows the teachings of Christ? Find one verse in the Bible that if applied will hurt us. Examples: Husbands love your wives, love your enemies, etc. Christianity is the only belief that supplies humanity with a redeemer. Jesus is the only one who addresses the problem of SIN, and has a solution for it. We can see that man has always had a problem with Sin. What does one have to lose if he follows Christ? Absolutely nothing. I am free from drugs, alcohol, poverty, I am a tither and, I am completely free from dept, and I own 3 cars, 2 boats, a van, and a pick-up. My house is paid for, and I do not put ANY of these things before God. I have been married for 50 years to the same person, and have never been unfaithful to my wife. I have no problem going to sleep at night, I am never depressed because I see the vanity of life, the uncertainty of life, and the brevity of life. What am I saying? Based on observation, experimentation, evaluation. wisdom and instructions from the Bible, and application. I discovered that the issue is whether or not we are wise or foolish. If Jesus is not who He says He is, you have not missed out on anything for nothing LASTS anyway. If we live long enough many of us will turn into stinky monsters, and our houses will smell like Ben Gay and Roach spray. (you don’t need faith to see that) However if Jesus IS who He says He is and His saying are true. Then what? Have you ever wondered why people are so against Jesus. If He is just a myth, a cultural Guru, why don’t you just let Him alone. Why do people spend so much time trying to convince others that He is not who he says He is. There is one thing that Satan does not want any human to believe, and that is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The church has always been the black and white man’s solution to all of his problems, and that is the one thing that both hate It is obvious that Mr. Hagins has studied so much, but has never been able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Truth (Jesus) was standing right before Pilate and he was not able to recognize it. I can’t understand why some people will use the Bible only to prove a certain point, but they will not believe all of it? If Jesus is considered a prophet, why don’t people believe His prophesies? Black man, stop blaming the white man for your stupidity (pretending to be ignorant), your hatred for the church and your problems in life, which can be solved by your reading of the Bible.
Information is not knowledge until it is verified and manifests. You seem to be satisfied with just believing and worshiping the information in the Bible and performing the rituals.